14" Paiste Innovations Medium HiHats. These are made of 2002 alloy and are sort of a "spin-off" of the 2002 and Dimensions series (may have been partially absorbed into those lines once discontinued). These are a little discolored like a penny on the play sides and have patina and scratches and stickmarks and ink fade. There's no cracks. Center holes are good. There's minimal edge roughness and a pretty tiny dent on top hat edge (the seal on these is still very good, though, as the dent is barely anything). Top hat weighs about 840 grams. Bottom hat weighs about 1295 grams. I would consider these as being in better than "good" condition but.. Reverb insists on using very subjective "official condition" terms and I don't want to get in a semantic argument. There's no returns and no sound clips, so make sure you want what you are buying. I provide "No B.S." selling with accurate descriptions and I need "No B.S. buying.