The Sabian HHX 21" Groove Ride is a remarkable sounding cymbal -- one of the darkest in the HHX line and with seriously musical overtones and an ultra-sensitive response. With a good amount of stick attack, the Groove Ride produces some nice definition but stays away from the "ping" sound found in many rides. The Groove Ride is all about the wash and sustain. Even when you strike the bell, which is loud without being overpowering, you'll notice some bleed into the bow which adds a great harmonic character to this versatile cymbal.