22" Zildjian Ride with the 70s thin stamp and no indication of a hollow logo on the underside (maybe it was once there but got removed. maybe it was never there and the cymbal is from the early 70s instead of late). The center hole has some keyholing but it's just the shape (there are no cracks there or anywhere else. The edges have no notable denting and the nicking is also quite mild. It has patina and stickmarks and and scratches and discoloration and ink fade and tape residue. Weighs about 3060 grams, which is fairly heavy. MY OPINION ON SOUND: Good stick with some wash.. Tap/wash is pretty low-pitched and crash is also fairly low pitched.. crash also much more muted and contained than one might expect from this weight.. there's a good possibility this is an early representation of the "Deep Ride" as it had a noticeably restricted crash on it. There's a low pitched, quiet, humming overtone once the crash dies out.