I have a beautiful white label--so very early--Bosphorus Masters 20" ride at about 1710 grams. This is heavier than most 20 Masters rides. More than that, the bell is slightly meatier--which is just to say it HAS a bell, unlike lots of Master Series rides--and the profile is slightly steeper. Consequently, this one is just a tad drier than most Masters rides and not as splashy. It's almost like the Bosphorus Hammer rides in profile, it's got a little more complexity, however, due to the heavier hammering, and is slightly lower in pitch. No dings or any other funny business. Drilled for three rivets at 12 3 and 9. I will include a soft cymbal bag with dividers, handles and an exterior pouch for the hi hats.