This is unlike anything out on the market instead of hearing your drums you actually feel your drums through the seat into your body. Used handful of times. Basically for all intent & purposes is brand new comes with throne base that I will add in. Because when buying from the company $1050 no throne base. This is not just for your kick drum this is for your entire drum mix you can feel your doubles your buzz rolls your triplets, it is amazing. I'm getting rid of do not use any more and is collecting dust in my storage unit. Not really needing to sell immediately so the price will be firm. $750.00